I prefer a single side safety. The Colt Custom Shop M45-A1 CQB 1911 in 45 ACP Review. The slim grip has an upswept beavertail and textured G10 panels. First, there is a bit more weight to this close quarter battle pistol than the standard GI model as mentioned above. Holster for the M45A1 could be a hassle right now since the frame is bigger then most other railed 1911s. To everyone who answered M1911: The M45 still 2 shots to the limbs. The Colt M45A1 CQBP comes with a cold-hammer forged, polished stainless steel 5" National Match barrel and a NM bushing. The 1911 semiautomatic pistol was invented by John Moses Browning, one of the most successful—and some would say, legendary—inventors of firearms who ever lived. Attended Larry vickers 1911 class last year and he flatly stated the m45A1 was the best off the shelf production 1911 on the market Posted: 7/17/2015 7:42:24 AM EST Skip the Colt. Originally, the M45A1 was a Colt 1911 produced for the U.S. Marine Corps. the one that suits youthe m1911 has better damage but less ammo, basically the scar-hthe m45 has less damage but more ammo, basically the akm, M1911 I can't hit two successive shots with the M45A1 no matter how hard I try (88), Both of them is two shots kill but the M45A1 is lacks of torso multiplier, Virgin M45A1 users vs Chad 1911 Pistolwhippers, Ah, I can see you're a man of culture as well, M1911 does 51 damage, that means two bodyshots, or 1 headshot for a kill, i would centainly choose this one, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the PhantomForces community. Parts are interchangeable . Some bits of the wiki aren't fully updated and it's triggering me. The USMC after rigorous mil-spec T&E says that the M45A1 meets their requirements as an issue WEAPON. The battle-tested M45A1 gets an even more durable and wear-resistant Decobond Brown coating for 2016 The battle-tested M45A1 CQBP has received a new coat of armor for 2016. The Colt design is considered an upgrade of the previous pistol, not an entirely new design. I'm looking into picking up a .45 and have been mulling over the options. The 1911 has served fine in battle over the last century. I don't think the TRP Operator can match that. Of course the FNX and FNS come to mind so that is one choice; the other is a good old fashion 1911. It’s a combat-ready pistol that will shoot the black out all day long. It is a two-shot kill (2SK) against an uninjured enemy up to 20 studs, considering that the player does not get a headshot. Simple poll: You have to choose a 1911 to take to battle, carry, whatever. Glad to see you got the M45A1. However, all my 1911's are high end. SPRAY AND PRAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. It is now officially Day Two of the 10-8 Consulting 1911 Armorer’s Course. I shoot my pistols, so while I like the M45A1, I wouldn't be purchasing just to collect. WE BioHazard Series (Ver.I / Ver.II) WE Desert Eagle .50 Cal Series. The CCU uses a regular bushing and standard 1911 take down. The M1911 fires the powerful .45 ACP cartridge (11.43x23mm). i prefer the M45A1 as it has better recoil control and more ammo, if you are a person like me who likes to spam pistols on short range without aiming, the M45A1 is perfect for you. The thumb safety seemed beefier than the accepted average. Colt's Manufacturing Company - firearms, handguns, pistols, rifles, revolvers. And I love your custom charcoal M45A1. And the logic is based in simple economics. Something that shoots into 1.5” at 25 is not what you want. Related Tags: Buzz, Feature Articles, Guns. Heirloom quality. Colt M45A1CQBP, Custom shop RG, WW2, Officer enhanced, night officer 2, combat elite, Gold Cup, tank officer, para P 14, kimber warrior, TRP, XDs 45, FNP tactical, Glock 43,34,21,20. Colt 1911 vs. HK 45. The M1911, also known as the Colt 1911, or the Colt Government, is a single-action, semi-automatic, magazine-fed, recoil-operated pistol chambered for the .45 ACP cartridge. In Phantom Forces, two teams -Phantoms and Ghosts- fight against one another to prove their dominance in an ever-growing selection of weapons, maps, and game modes. I never thought I'd say this, but the M1911 is flat out better. I prefer a single side safety. The M1911 is a pistol of US … It features an accessory rail, modern night sights and other modern attributes, plus a desert-tan finish. Marine Corps purchase of 12,000 M45 Close Quarter Battle Pistols could mean the iconic.45 ACP is the shape of things to come By Brendan McNally - September 10, 2012 The Colt M45 Close Quarters Battle Pistol in.45 ACP, an M1911 by any other name, is being purchased by the Marine Corps in large numbers. Ninja Edit: I will double check all of this in a little bit when I go to play PF. Just use the 1911. Each time I handle the M45A1, though, I silently bemoan Colt’s decision to leave the frontstrap untextured, particularly in a .45 that is often fired while wearing gloves. However, all my 1911's are high end. The CCU uses a regular bushing and standard 1911 take down. It should be noted that the Colt 1911 name is a copyright obligation, as even before WW2, Remington Rand, the government's Springfield Armory, and many other companies also manufactured the US military's 1911. I have a VBOB, which I love, and which is of course head and shoulders above all the other 1911’s I’ve owned (Kimber, SA, Remington). I will make sure these things are right and look at the 3SK kill range of the M45A1. Enhanced grips and slide serrations offer better grip surfaces for the user whilst handling and … _____ I believe the M45A1 was the first 1911 to feature dual recoil springs, and Colt now employs them on several popular models. Grips for Colt M45A1. The Marine Corps has authorized MARSOC operators to carry Glock pistols, since many of the elite outfit's members prefer the popular 9mm over the custom .45 pistols the service bought them in 2012. Everyday Ed Brown, Wilson, Bear, Burton, et all pump out more and more pistols. WE … It served as the standard-issue sidearm for the United States Armed Forces from 1911 to 1985. It has already been through a high round count pistol course, and belongs to an educated end user who knows how to keep his 1911s running. The m1911 is better, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the PhantomForces community. Damn fine pistol! Colt M45A1 Close Quarters Battle Pistol (CQBP) – Review & Range Report. The pistol was redesignated the M45A1 Close Quarter Battle Pistol (CQBP) and up to 12,000 will be delivered. One of our intrepid students brought their fairly rare MARSOC M45A1 to class to work on. This was something I had been very excited to do for a long time, and I was not let down. Let's not forget that the M1911 also fires faster (720 vs 670 rpm) and has the same short reload but a faster long reload than the M45A1. I am looking for details on the difference(s) between the two? But like, worse damage? The Colt 1911 CMC Marine is basically the ultimate incarnation of the Colt 1911, and possibly deserves better treatment in a meritocracy. Given that (1) I live in America, (2) don't currently own a .45 ACP pistol yet have ~1,500 rounds of said cartridge on the shelf, and (3) lack a 1911 in the safe, I've been kicking around the idea of getting one after I can drop 5 more pounds and earn my SCAR-17. congrats on you Marine Colt. The original 1911 and 1911A1 were the workhorses of the battlefield in their extensive service over much of the 20th century. If I wanted a railed Colt 1911 I'd get the CRG without hesitation. Everyday Ed Brown, Wilson, Bear, Burton, et all pump out more and more pistols. The M45A1 was a birthday/graduation gift from my wife with acknowledgement to our service history and to our family members, past & present, in service to this nation- … Of the pistol-type sidearms, it has the highest damage per shot and can be fitted with a magazine and underbarrel mod, in exchange for having very high recoil and a small magazine. you use to be a hater in the past. But the good news is. 1911 has better minimum damage, making it a 3SK to the torso at range. One of my Ed Brown 1911’s or this specific example of M45a1? Probably nothing in the Pentagon’s long history ever stirred quite as much controversy and anger as its 1985 decision to … Let’s face it, the Marines opted for this 1911 M45A1 as their official service weapon, even though a lot of actual soldiers will pack a striker-fired HK or Glock when they’re not on parade. The M45A1 has high overall damage, higher than the M1911 although lower than the Desert Eagle L5 and all revolvers. It was the first time since the end of WWII that Colt had supplied new 1911 pistols to the US Government, and for Colt fanatics like me, the news was like a homecoming. Compare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 and FN FNX-45 Shut up. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Press J to jump to the feed. Heirloom quality. Naturally, now that I’m looking for a railed 1911, the Specialist is at the top of the list. It was the first time since the end of WWII that Colt had supplied new 1911 pistols to the US Government, and for Colt fanatics like me, the news was like a homecoming. Phantom Forces is a FPS game by the Roblox game development group StyLiS Studios, comprised of Litozinnamon, shaylan007, AxisAngle, Semaphorism, and Raspy_Pi. It will crap up and jam. I've not shot either of the FN pistols but I did like the trigger feel when I … Purely aesthetically, I much prefer Colt's roll … The mentioned non-captive, dual recoil spring solves cycling issues that 1911-type pistols usually experience due to spring strengths; a widened and flared ejection window and a polished and coated feeding ramp also address two other key design issues that are known to cause malfunctions on the 1911 pistol platform. The M1911 is still in limited use in the U.S Marine Corps (mainly under the M45A1 CQBP version) due to its reliability and … M45A1: The Return of the M1911.45 ACP? The M45A1 Close Quarters Battle Pistol (CQBP) was announced on July 20, 2012, chosen from three submissions to a 2010 solicitation handed down by Marine Corps Systems Command (MARCORSYSCOM). The 1911 then was deemed a bit large for a typical woman, but that may have had less to do with the size of the grip than the perceived recoil, which, in the case of the M45A1, seems to have been substantially reduced. The M1911 also has more ranged damage AND a torso multiplier so it retains a 3 shot kill at any range in the game as long as a single shot hits the torso. Handguns - 1911; Colt M45 A1 vs Colt M45A1 "Custom 45" If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Recently, in 2012, the Colt 1911 Rail Gun was re-designated as the M45A1 CQBP (Close Quarter Battle Pistol), As such, it is an upgrade of the M45 MEUSOC, as it features a dual recoil spring system which spreads out the recoil of the .45 ACP round. I'm looking into picking up a .45 and have been mulling over the options. WE M45A1 Black A modernised variant of the 1911 built at the request of the newly reactivated Marine Raiders during the restructuring of MARSOC in 2014. Thread starter FZR600KID; Start date Nov 3, 2011; F. FZR600KID Member. On July 20, 2012, the Colt 1911 Rail Gun was selected and won a contract to initially deliver 4,000 pistols for MARSOC and MEU (SOC) forces. Purely aesthetically, I much prefer Colt's roll marks over the TRP's "Tactical" and … The 1911 has served fine in battle over the last century. It was hard to … by Paul Helinski on September 19, 2015. One of my Ed Brown 1911’s or this specific example of M45a1? Sig Sauer also has "Traditional" 1911's which have the more rounded slide on top vs the squarer Sig profile, with or without a rail (mine is without). This gives it the second-shortest max rang… To me anyway. It was widely used in World War I, World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War.The pistol's formal … Nov 3, 2011 #1. The military connection runs deep with this Colt-manufactured and -enhanced 1911. M45A1, more bullets = TESTOSTERONE, HELL YEAH, BABY!! Im not a fan of pistols im a xowboy but m1911 i guess, the M1911 has better range, while the M45A1 has better max damage, when spammed, the 1911 has upwards vertical recoil, while for some reason the M45 has downwards, 1911 has better minimum damage, making it a 3SK to the torso at range, the M45 is a 4SK at range unless you equip AP, making it a 3SK after like 10 to 15 studs, within that range it stays 2SK, the M45 has a slightly higher ammo capacity, at 10(+1), compared to the 1911’s 8(+1). when spammed, the 1911 has upwards vertical recoil, while for some reason the M45 has downwards. Or is it just worth it for a collectors piece? Colt M45A1 Close Quarters Battle Pistol (CQBP) – Review & Range Report. M45A1 has a higher capacity and less recoil. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The M1911 is a single action semi-automatic pistol invented by famous firearms designer, John Moses Browning. The M1911 is a sidearm in Tom Clancy's The Division. Related Tags: Buzz, Feature Articles, Guns. Phantom Forces is a FPS game by the Roblox game development group StyLiS Studios, comprised of Litozinnamon, shaylan007, AxisAngle, Semaphorism, and Raspy_Pi. by Paul Helinski on September 19, 2015. In Phantom Forces, two teams -Phantoms and Ghosts- fight against one another to prove their dominance in an ever-growing selection of weapons, maps, and game modes. Diclaimer: I'm on mobile right now, so i can't check the stats at the moment. The 1911 was designed with a new handgun cartridge, .45 ACP, in mind. Of the pistol-type sidearms, it has the highest damage per shot and can be fitted with a magazine and underbarrel mod, in exchange for having very high recoil and a small magazine. To me anyway. The CCU uses the beefier rail from the M45A1 (The USMC discovered frames cracking on the standard rail). Honesty the M45a1 will be worth double if not more. It has enough damage to 2 shot anywhere on the body up close and at a slightly longer range than the M45A1. These are the design that the U.S. Marine Corps issued for their MARSOC and Force Recon Elements. There are possibilities of changing … Damn fine pistol! K00003 & K00004 bundle *Hand Made*Limited Edition* (A180) K00 Series (AW K00000 & K00001 bundle *Hand Made*Limited Edition*) If I wanted a railed Colt 1911 I'd get the CRG without hesitation. M45A1 is if you have sloppier aim, because it loses about 10 dmg, but gains extra ammo. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. ----- when spammed, the 1911 has upwards vertical recoil, while for some reason the M45 has downwards. This added weight, in addition to the dual spring “slap back,” provide for … Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The world of prior service Marines and 1911 collectors was turned on its head a couple of week ago when “decommissioned” USMC M45A1 pistols went up for sale on gunbroker.com. The two models are essentially identical. It has to enable you a fast and easy draw at all times and conditions. It replaced … 1911 has better minimum damage, making it a 3SK to the torso at range. While the capacity and feel of the M45 is what you’d expect from a Colt 1911, so is the price point; the MSRP for the USMC Spec Ops Command’s CQBP is set at $1,999. Of course the FNX and FNS come to mind so that is one choice; the other is a good old fashion 1911. The Colt M45 holds 7+1 rounds of .45 ACP. Project Start: August 2014. I feel like this isn't mentioned anytime this discussion comes up so here i go: The M45A1 also has a 2SK at close range(even though i think that its drop off starts earlier), the 3SK kill range of the M45A1 is also quite good(even if the 4SK at max range doesn't allow the M45A1 to pistol snipe as well as the M1911) and it's debatable if the RPM of the guns makes a difference, so one should probably ask themselves if he can click around 11 or around 12 times per second. It more closely resembled the M45A1 CQBP then it did the M1911A1. Search, buy and sell Air Pistols on GunStar today! AMERICA. The M45A1 CQBP was built and spec’d respectively by two entities with over 100 years of experience in the 1911 platform. The thumb safety seemed beefier than the accepted average. Who hits limbs with those absolute unit bodies? Shooting and discussing the Colt M45A1 1911 Marine pistol. WE M45A1 (1911 GEN2 System) WE 654K (MAKAROV)Series. The CCU uses the beefier rail from the M45A1 (The USMC discovered frames cracking on the standard rail). Just a very brief an overall description, but the 1911 is a better more dependable secondary for more situations, and the M45 has a slight advantage in panic situations. M45 if you have less accuracy and you want better utility against larger groups. The M1911 is a pistol of US … But since the M45A1 is a development of the M1911 .45-caliber ACP automatic pistol, it’s hard not to attach deeper meaning into it. Each time I handle the M45A1, though, I silently bemoan Colt’s decision to leave the frontstrap untextured, particularly in a .45 that is often fired while wearing gloves. I'll take one less bullet for more damage at a farther range. With a 5 barrel the Colt Rail Gun features Novak 3-dot sights and an M1913 Picatinny rail for accessory attachments. The USMC after rigorous mil-spec T&E says that the M45A1 meets their requirements as an issue WEAPON. Colt M45A1 CQBP USMC 1911 Review Part 1 Over the weekend I took the Colt MARSOC M45A1 out for its maiden voyage. It's ok mp1911, you may get noticed one day. For more information, visit coltsmfg.com or call 800-962-2658. The M45A1 was a birthday/graduation gift from my wife with acknowledgement to our service history and to our family members, past & present, in service to this nation- … WE 1911 Series (GEN1/GEN2/M45A1) WE 1911 GEN2. However, I saw a few good reviews of the M45A1, which, frankly, along with the aesthetics, piqued my interest. A proper gun grip is the first part on your Colt M45A1 that you will come into contact with while reaching for it in the holster. The M1911 is clearly the better gun. The battle-tested M45A1 gets an even more durable and wear-resistant Decobond Brown coating for 2016 The battle-tested M45A1 CQBP has received a new coat of armor for 2016. The M45A1 CQBP pistol is issued with Wilson black metal single-stack magazines, holding 7+1 rounds. M45A1 is marginally better at spamming and engaging multiple people, M1911 has a longer 2-shot by about 5 studs and the ability to 3-shot at it's minimum damage thanks to a 1.1x torso modifier. M45A1 is marginally better at spamming and engaging multiple people, M1911 has a longer 2-shot by about 5 studs and the ability to 3-shot at it's minimum damage thanks to a 1.1x torso modifier. Nov 3, 2011 #1. It's an issued gun, so you can't sell the more expensive one, buy the cheaper and keep the change. I've not shot either of the FN pistols but I did like the trigger feel when I … These models feature the iconic fire controls and functions as the standard 1911 platform, running from simple and easy to use! The Colt Rail Gun is a family of military style 1911 semi-automatic pistols. I am looking to purchase my first 1911 and I have narrowed it down to these two... Is the M45A1 worth it over the rail gun? Handguns - 1911; Colt M45 A1 vs Colt M45A1 "Custom 45" If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Use whichever you find more comfortable. Joined Sep 23, 2006 Messages 22 Reactions 0 Points 0. Here's the positive I like most about the M45A1 - it was spec'd, tested with other pistols, and Colt was chosen to put a 1911 back into the hands of Marines in combat. Outside of the mentioned ambidextrous manual safety, the controls configuration is the same as on any other 1911 variant. Thanks CurtisB for your excellent post above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Sig also makes a Tac version with Tac sights and with or without a rail that looks more like my Target model (squarer slide). You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. The M1911 is a sidearm in Tom Clancy's The Division. There are only two choices, a Springfield Professional Railed or Colt M45A1. Dark Star Gear makes a custom kydex holster to fight a railed 1911 with out a light and it will fit the M45 just right. The original 1911 and 1911A1 were the workhorses of the battlefield in their extensive service over much of the 20th century. There exists a Machine Pistol variant of the M1911, the MP1911. Shooting the M45A1 is surprisingly different than shooting other 1911’s. Actual USMC pistols for sale to the general public. ... and informed choice is simple, uncomplicated, and unambiguous. M45A1 is marginally better at spamming and engaging multiple people, M1911 has a longer 2-shot by about 5 studs and the ability to 3-shot at it's minimum damage thanks to a 1.1x torso modifier. With a 5 barrel the Colt Rail Gun features Novak 3-dot sights and an M1913 Picatinny rail for accessory attachments. Colt, Springfield Armory, and Karl Lippard Designs offered a replacement for the age-old rebuilt .45s, and thus, a variation of the Colt 1911 Rail Gun … Compare the dimensions and specs of Kimber 1911 and FN FNX-45 And the logic is based in simple economics. The Colt Rail Gun is a family of military style 1911 semi-automatic pistols. Pistols have a Talent which makes the weapon deal 100% more damage to enemies with fewer than 30% health. ... and informed choice is simple, uncomplicated, and unambiguous. Honesty the M45a1 will be worth double if not more. the M1911 has better range, while the M45A1 has better max damage. Thanks a lot mech. Pistols have a Talent which makes the weapon deal 100% more damage to enemies with fewer than 30% health. Use whichever you find more comfortable. A fighting 1911, unlike the M45A1, needs big sights, big ambi safety, opened-up mag well, spring-loaded extractor (lots of 1911 issues are down to the internal extractor) all of which the Kimber has, but,, above all, loose tolerances. Browse KWC Air Pistols for sale from our community of shooting enthusiasts on the UK’s #1 gun marketplace. I personally put a z-point and laser on it plus R2 suppressor for john wick memes. And no body multiplier? Photo of the Day: Colt M45 vs. Rail Gun (The Rails) Posted on 07/27/2013 by Tim Lau Here is a look at the difference between the rail sections of the Colt M45 (right) and Rail Gun. M1911, although it has a smaller ammo capacity, just have good aim and in a minimum of three shots, they're dead. Ive chosen my new backup. welcome to the club. Project Start: August 2014. Press J to jump to the feed. the M1911 has better range, while the M45A1 has better max damage.